New Dex in the late fall

Expletive Deleted wrote:

I disagree, here's what you do.

Assume any unit or character without a unit has been taken out of the codex, even Vect.
Assume we get three books and the supplements are essential if you want to run anything other than a kabal.
Assume we get a psyker or a way to cast psychic powers.
Assume rules are barely changed except a few cost hikes here and there.
Assume no new models.

Once you're prepared for that, there's no way Games Workshop can live up to your low expectations. And if for some reason they do, you prepared for it.

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That's definitely the way to go about it

That's my mantra: Expect the worst hope for the best. Especially in games of chance.

Yeah, that splinter cannon might take out those five terminators, but it's probably going to take all 20.
Yeah, that Dark Lance might blow up that land raider, but it's probably going to take all 15.

Yeah, Games Workshop might not screw us over, but precedent.

You deal with less disappointment that way.

Also, more naftka!
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/09/splinter-cannons-becoming-salvo-and.html

So add Splinter Cannon being nerfed to the list of assumptions.

I barely call that nerf. We might lose a few poison shots per turn, maximum. And we dont know the rest of the dex.

It's also pure conjecture.

Count Adhemar wrote:

It's also pure conjecture.

This.

Don't assume that anything you hear before the release is right. Wait until you have the book, or else there'll probably be a flood of negativity

Pretty sure I read that assumption about the splinter cannon becoming salvo in a comments thread on faeit. The "rumours" on there are pretty much self perpetuating by this point. The unreliability of Dark Eldar rumours on there is exacerbated by the fact that Natfka has told every reader repeatedly how eager he is for any information on Dark Eldar, which just sends a message to those wanting to troll him that they're probably a good army to pick.

A lot of people seem to be taking the fact that the Voidraven is in the codex as confirmation that there is a model for it. It's in this one, and we don't have a model for it, so I can't take that as a guarantee, even with a rumoured price point. What would make a lot more sense is if they repackaged the Razorwing as a dual build kit and rewrote the fluff for the Voidraven to get rid of the targeting pod and reduce the overall size. Then they only need to include slightly different lances, which would fit in exactly the same holes as the existing weapons, and add a little torpedo tube looking thing under the nose for the bomb.

I won't believe anything until I have the codex in my hands!

Barking Agatha wrote:

So many questions. Where is her waist? What the hell is she doing? How does she type or open jars? Why is she doing jazz hands? Why is she wearing a stripperkini on the outside? Do legs bend that way?

Poor Kruellagh.

I had my tea to my lips, had the tea been in my mouth i'd currently be wiping my screen clean.

You had me smiling at the typing and opening jars, but the jazz hands were just too much.

Mr Believer wrote:

I won't believe anything until I have the codex in my hands!

This line combined with your user name gave me a much needed chuckle after a long arduous morning so far at work

thanks

Ha, no problem

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't had the same thought about Splinter Cannons. Salvo 4/6 makes more logical sense than having an Assault 4 and Heavy 6 profile for the same weapon, even if it is a reduction in effectiveness.

Re: the void raven, the concept art is actually quite different from the Razorwing model. The hull is different enough that it wouldn't make sense as a combined kit with the current sculpt. That said, re-working the fluff and giving it a different lance would probably work nicely. Honestly, the fliers as a whole need an overhaul to fit their own fluff. At present, the Jetfighter works better as a bomber because it comes stock with 5 large blast missiles, and the Bomber works better as a fighter because it comes with 2 higher strength lances, and only a single one-shot bomb.

Panic_Puppet wrote:

Honestly, the fliers as a whole need an overhaul to fit their own fluff. At present, the Jetfighter works better as a bomber because it comes stock with 5 large blast missiles, and the Bomber works better as a fighter because it comes with 2 higher strength lances, and only a single one-shot bomb.

This... is what is driving me crazy in our current dex... :-)

aurynn wrote:

Panic_Puppet wrote:

Honestly, the fliers as a whole need an overhaul to fit their own fluff. At present, the Jetfighter works better as a bomber because it comes stock with 5 large blast missiles, and the Bomber works better as a fighter because it comes with 2 higher strength lances, and only a single one-shot bomb.

This... is what is driving me crazy in our current dex... :-)

Also that the ultimate DE payload is supposed to be a small blast one shot weapon

Elzadar wrote:

aurynn wrote:

Panic_Puppet wrote:

Honestly, the fliers as a whole need an overhaul to fit their own fluff. At present, the Jetfighter works better as a bomber because it comes stock with 5 large blast missiles, and the Bomber works better as a fighter because it comes with 2 higher strength lances, and only a single one-shot bomb.

This... is what is driving me crazy in our current dex... :-)

Also that the ultimate DE payload is supposed to be a small blast one shot weapon

I'd say the little guy (void mine) is amazing if only it wasn't for that one shot rule. Dropping a deuce on your opponent in the movement phase at 36" range is great. Once you've used it the effectiveness of the model isn't really worth the cost anymore... but I still love the Void Raven!

Cavash wrote:

Count Adhemar wrote:

It's also pure conjecture.

This.

Don't assume that anything you hear before the release is right. Wait until you have the book, or else there'll probably be a flood of negativity

There are different ways of coping with the unknown, I'd much rather be prepared for disappointment than be blindsided by it. I'm still looking forward to a new release. I reserve my negativity for the actual release, and whenever that happens I'm less likely to be as negative as everyone else, because my expectations were already low. And if the release is full of great changes? I'm super happy.

The latest via Natfka:

Natfka wrote:

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 *****
The cover of the next white dwarf reveals a new looking Haemonculi with long hair down one side, but may be a conversion. There are two wracks flanking him with more wracks in the background.

Also on the cover........
Symphony of Pain
A new Minigame Inside

New Dark Eldar!
Beware the Flesh-Shapers
Beneath the Dark City, the Haemonculi Perform their Dread Art

Personally, I am loving the Coven emphasis so far.

I am not sad about Coven emphasis.

But it's the Cults that actually need love.

That's because they're the ones with biggest potential, AND the most likely models to get resculpted (wracks and grotesques both being finecast). The one time I've ever had a void mine be useful was when Farsight and his friends landed, shot something, and forgot to jet-pack and spread out. That was predictably painful. Needs more bombs. Maybe give it 4 bombs instead of missiles?

solar shock wrote:

I had my tea to my lips, had the tea been in my mouth i'd currently be wiping my screen clean.

You had me smiling at the typing and opening jars, but the jazz hands were just too much.

Thanks! I live to please

Hmm... Coven Dark Eldar? Sure. They have the most potential for a supplement as well. (Still want a Duke Sliscus one)

Wahoo! Our codex and mega force are removed from the webstore (Aust)

Hey guys, Void Dragon is missing from FW site...maybe dual kit with Void Raven?
I remember it was a huge Flyer, and pretty popular with people who were willing to pay FW prices.

"Hey guys, such and such is missing! Could that mean this?" - If I had a darra for each time I heard this I'd be rich.

We will see in a week

Azdrubael wrote:

We will see in a week

And i still don`t have money

just been on the gw web site and the codex and battle force seem to have been taken of the dark eldar listings i hope this meens that we are just a week away from being able to preorder the new codex. and am excited to see what we will get in a new battle force if they repackge it

Merged this into the discussion on the new dex as it did not require its own thread - Count Adhemar

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But it's the Cults that actually need love.

+1. Hope we at least get the book with special rules and items for Cults.