Hey guys, I'm gearing up for a tournament in the next few weeks and I was curious if anyone had some suggestions on how to better optimize my list. I'm trying to focus mostly on a quick & shooty army (crazy huh?!). We're running 1850 using Beta Rules/ITC.
So far I'm 2 for 2 with this particular list and fairly happy w/the setup - BUT - after reading about them some more I had changed up one of my Ravagers last game from a 3xDL to 1xDL + 2xDissie version and had a fairly noticeable difference in damage output vs infantry/monsters. I'm now wondering if this (or similar) might be the optimal build for *all* of my Ravagers, though naturally as a Drukhari I'm quite fond of my Dark Lances, and have had excellent luck taking out vehicles or high W units with these... so I'm definitely hesitant on dropping 4 more DL's.. Maybe just do one 3x Dissie Ravager + two 3xDL? The cost difference is also somewhat off-putting.
Local meta is almost all SM variants or Tyranids. Last game was versus Thousand Sons and I basically demolished him by keeping at range the entire time (killed his transport T1 w/alpha strike) and focusing the largest threats on down. However it was still sketchy T2/3 due to his enormous Daemon getting in my grill and naturally I had ZERO response to his psykers (meh, we're used to this lol). Poison saved the day, but had it been a better player it may have gone differently (ok, maybe not, his entire army was on foot aside from a Chariot, Predator, disc lord and winged Daemon Lord).
Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated! Especially if you have any tips specifically for SM or 'Nids (or hell, anyone else!).
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BATTALION DETACHMENT
HQ
- Archon, Blster + PGL + Agonizer
- Archon
#2, Relic Pistol + PGL + Agonizer (need to drop PGL, forgot you can't use pistols + others at same time)
- Court of the Archon: Sslyth x1 (no org. slot taken)
Troops:
- Kabalite 5-man w/blaster
- Kabalite 5-man w/blaster
- Kabalite 5-man w/blaster
Elites:
- Blasterborn 5-man w/Blaster x4
Fast Attack:
- Scourge 5-man w/DL x4
- Scourge 5-man (stock weapons - carbine x5) - These guys did some friggin' WORK last match
Heavy Support:
- Ravager 2xDissie 1xDL
- Ravager 3xDL
- Ravager 3xDL
Flyers:
- Razorwing, TLSR + 2xDL
- Razorwing, TLSR + 2xDL
Transports:
- Venom, SC x2
- Venom, SC x2
- Venom, SC x2
- Raider, DL
Total Points: 1850 on the nose, 6CP
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INITIAL STRATEGY:
I put a squad of Blasterborn + 2 squads of Kabalites into all the Venoms and I put the Warlord + Sslyth + last Kabalite squad into the Raider. Last Archon either Deepstrikes, goes in Raider too or walks (they're all sub optimal atm, I know
Helps with anti-DS duty tho). I usually deepstrike one or both Scourge to keep them safe - these have also been *excellent* at spreading out slow armies by surrounding them early and/or throwing them a cheap-ish distraction (not the DL ones!) should they fall for it for a turn. RWJFs start on opposite sides and essentially trace the outer area of our play area. This is fairly typical DE stuff so I imagine you know how it goes after that
Lots of running around and focusing down the strongest units while trolling the rest from range
ISSUES:
Not a very high model count and basically zero close combat potential (only "real" options would be Archons and Sslyth but verse a dedicated combat character we ded). As someone will no doubt point out the Scourge tend to be the first ones to die, almost always, though I'm liking the carbines and it's a pretty easy way to get 4 more DL in my list with the other unit. I'd consider another Ravager or possibly a Reaper, but the deep strike + distraction does warrant some value-adds imho (I just like them! ok?)
ALTERNATE UNITS:
I'm more than willing to purchase additional units and plan to regardless (Hellions, modern Beastmaster, Cronos, etc)
- Incubi (x5)
- Mandrakes (x8)
- Wracks (x5)
- Talos (x1)
- Archons (x1)
- Kabalites (~50)
- Reavers (x6)
- Raiders (x3)
- Wyches (x10)
- Khymerae (x5)
- Beastmaster (x1) [Old OOP model - no skyboard, so I prefer not to use him, but I could kitbash or buy a real one]
- Razorwing Flocks (x15)
Dark Lance or Dissies? If so, what would you drop to bring it in? Maybe one DL from the Scourge? Hell changing a Venom to TLSR would do it too! I do much prefer the 36" range though w/18" RF + Blaster.
Thanks for looking guys!!! Sorry for the wall of text hehe