Psychic Awakening: Phoenix Rising

Wych Posts : 915 Join date : 2015-05-01

It seems to me that GW is pushing towards the Rhana Dandra so I am expecting it to be revealed that Drazhar is in fact Arhra.

Kabalite Warrior Posts : 162 Join date : 2018-04-03

Burnage wrote:: So this banner seems kind of interesting. Are we getting the reveal that Drazhar = Arhra?

Just a short story so far. Keeping my fingers crossed until the end of the working day though. Where was this banner?

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Hellion Posts : 32 Join date : 2018-04-07

GreyArea wrote:

Burnage wrote:: So this banner seems kind of interesting. Are we getting the reveal that Drazhar = Arhra?

Just a short story so far. Keeping my fingers crossed until the end of the working day though. Where was this banner?

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It's on the front page of https://www.warhammer-community.com/

Wych Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe

Psychic Awakening: Phoenix Rising - Page 7 40kpsy10

there he is

I've got to say, still not a fan of the helmet and the hair

Wych Posts : 523 Join date : 2013-08-16

my god hes sexy as frak ^_^

Wych Posts : 777 Join date : 2017-03-10

I like how they're hyping up D2 as the end all be all of a powerhouse weapon.

Space marines get a S×3 Dd6 power fist on their special characters, but I guess getting a single D4 wound every other time you fight is cool too.

Slave Posts : 20 Join date : 2016-12-10

Kinda disappointed with the rules and the model. Imho he looks just too similar to an regular Incubi, his old model atleast lets him stand out amoung the others. Also in comparison with what the latest SM characters have gotten, these new rules seem a little weak.

Here is hoping that the full release still has some amazing rules to show.

Incubi Posts : 1921 Join date : 2018-04-02

Oh man, now I see why the Klaivex didn't get D2 Demiklaives - they were saving that prestigious honour for Drazhar himself. Rolling Eyes

Regarding the model, I can see at once that Drazhar has absolutely no idea how swords work. That or he's made a bet with someone that he can kill a SM Captain using only the handle of his sword.

Presumably he's won similar bets before, judging by the amount of crap that's festooning his armour. I don't know about you but when read Drazhar's fluff I got the impression that he was the sort who didn't give a damn about trophies and certainly didn't need them. I thought if anyone seriously questioned his martial prowess, Drazhar would simply challenge them (without ever actually speaking), and cut them down.

Wych Posts : 915 Join date : 2015-05-01

I'm not a fan of the helmet, the old helmet just did it for me in a way that this new one doesn't. I also feel that they went overboard with the ribbons on him.

Also can't say I'm that impressed with the rules either but hey, I didn't expect much from GW as we are Dark Eldar.

Subject: Re: Psychic Awakening: Phoenix Rising Mon Sep 30 2019, 17:45

Yes Yes Yes! Our overpriced special character now has a weapon that does the same amount of damage as a hellglaive wielded by a stinking hellion.
Drazahar- 6 attacks - str 4- 120 points. 2 damage per hit.
8 hellions- 33 attacks, str 4, 2 damage per hit. 126 points.
Drazahar has better armor, but HALF the movement, cant hit and run, cant shoot (16 shots at 18" for the hellions, poisoned of course).

But hey! He now does 2 wounds.

What a kick in the teeth.

Wych Posts : 915 Join date : 2015-05-01

Soulless Samurai wrote:: Regarding the model, I can see at once that Drazhar has absolutely no idea how swords work. That or he's made a bet with someone that he can kill a SM Captain using only the handle of his sword.

You mean that they aren't used as oversized knuckle dusters? Razz

Soulless Samurai wrote:: Presumably he's won similar bets before, judging by the amount of crap that's festooning his armour. I don't know about you but when read Drazhar's fluff I got the impression that he was the sort who didn't give a damn about trophies and certainly didn't need them. I thought if anyone seriously questioned his martial prowess, Drazhar would simply challenge them (without ever actually speaking), and cut them down.

Agreed, I had a similar perspective.

Incubi Posts : 1505 Join date : 2017-09-12

I'm going to reserve judgement about how he'll perform on the tabletop until I see his full ruleset - hopefully he'll decrease in points and gain a better invulnerable save, if nothing else.

I love the model, though. I'm totally picking up all of these releases and hoping there'll be a box set for them.

Wych Posts : 523 Join date : 2013-08-16

i cant say anything about the rules till i see his whole profile.
Having said that i think im in the minority but the model kicks ass. the stance is amazing and i LOVE the way he holds the blades he looks like a total badass

Hellion Posts : 32 Join date : 2018-04-07

Skulnbonz wrote:: Yes Yes Yes! Our overpriced special character now has a weapon that does the same amount of damage as a hellglaive wielded by a stinking hellion.
Drazahar- 6 attacks - str 4- 120 points. 2 damage per hit.
8 hellions- 33 attacks, str 4, 2 damage per hit. 126 points.
Drazahar has better armor, but HALF the movement, cant hit and run, cant shoot (16 shots at 18" for the hellions, poisoned of course).

But hey! He now does 2 wounds.

What a kick in the teeth.

Don't forget that Drazhar can fight twice if he charges, so that's potentially 12 attacks. And if you give him the Warlord Trait (Hatred Eternal), he gets to re-roll wounds.
So in the right conditions, he will be able to do a lot of damage (even more so if you get some 6s when wounding.)

But yeah I also see what your point is. And I hope that he gets other buffs and/or a point reduction, because that damage buff alone won't be quite enough to really make him competitive.

Incubi Posts : 1505 Join date : 2017-09-12

If none of his other rules have changed, he kills four Primaris marines a turn when he's charged. It's good that his damage has improved, but it's not a game changer for us.

Subject: Re: Psychic Awakening: Phoenix Rising Mon Sep 30 2019, 18:24

For me instead is.an autoin in every Kabal/Wychcult batallion detatchment. He is a powerhouse!

Yeah the helmet is a bit too big, but it is a GW common problem...nothing new

Wych Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe

Cerve wrote:: Yeah the helmet is a bit too big, but it is a GW common problem...nothing new

but that and the Klaivex are hideously comically too large

Hekatrix Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06

Let's relax on the rules a bit. Maybe these are all the buffs Drazhar gets, maybe he gets more, maybe he just gets a pts decrease. Either way, we just don't know yet until the book drops. Glad to see that there's confirmation he'll drop in October.

As for the model itself, I love it. Can't wait to get my hands on it and get painting.

Kabalite Warrior Posts : 180 Join date : 2016-02-18

I love that model. The old Drazar and my kinda cool Raging Heroes proxy will now both be shelved. Though I've never run either. Wink

I don't comment on rules or points until I see everything, so I'll remain unfortunately pessimistic but will still run him and Incubi for fun if nothing else. Maybe as Ynnari only.
I'm very hoping they just cut his cost in half and leave him alone, though my hope was that his rules and abilities would make him actually worth 120 points. I really, really wanted a wild chainsaw of death.

Slave Posts : 17 Join date : 2018-10-05

I'm holding out for some anti psyker rules to be added into incubi. Something with the soul stones they keep calling out on the models.

This would give those models a dedicated purpose and tie them into the big psyker changes they keep mentioning with this Psychic Awakening while still leaving dark eldar psyker free.

Wych Posts : 925 Join date : 2017-01-03

Mmm the more I read into this the more the Psychic awakening (all parts) is going to be Aeldari centric (specially after watching the video at the end of the Drahzar reveal). Part 1 being Aeldarhi v Druhkari (specifically Incubi v. Banshee) part 2 will probably be a little broader and bring in Harlequins and the Ynnari as well as our living Daemon Pri..... I mean muse Vect and part 3 will be the final showdown or buildup to Ynead v. Slannesh (with space marine stuff cause gods forbid any cool story development be without The galaxy poster boys) I'm excited to see what the release next ... and I will definitely get the new models. And use the old Drazar model as a stand in Klaivex for one of my incubi squads

Incubi Posts : 1921 Join date : 2018-04-02

Archon_91 wrote:: Mmm the more I read into this the more the Psychic awakening (all parts) is going to be Aeldari centric (specially after watching the video at the end of the Drahzar reveal). Part 1 being Aeldarhi v Druhkari (specifically Incubi v. Banshee) part 2 will probably be a little broader and bring in Harlequins and the Ynnari as well as our living Daemon Pri..... I mean muse Vect and part 3 will be the final showdown or buildup to Ynead v. Slannesh (with space marine stuff cause gods forbid any cool story development be without The galaxy poster boys) I'm excited to see what the release next ... and I will definitely get the new models. And use the old Drazar model as a stand in Klaivex for one of my incubi squads

I fear I lack your optimism.

My guess is that the first release will focus on *all* the Eldar factions.

Then the focus of subsequent releases will be:
1) Space Marines
2) Space Marines
3) Space Marines
4) Chaos
5) Space Marines
6) Space Marines
7) Space Marines

Incubi Posts : 1505 Join date : 2017-09-12

I wouldn't expect all of Psychic Awakening to be Eldar based, I think rumours are that the next wave will be Black Templars vs Orks.

Wych Posts : 747 Join date : 2017-05-19

Been away from the site for a while painting Crimson Fists...don't hate me Laughing

While I like this model as a stand alone model....I'm of the opinion that it simply shows a lack of effort from GW yet again.

This model is basically the Klaivex...it is good enough to be the new Klaivex. The recently shown new Klaivex model was just about good enough for new Incubi.

Where is the unique element to this model that shouts to us Draz? Where is his helm? His unique weapons? This is a handsome model of a Klaivex stood high up on some rubble...and that is the effort GW went to. They gave us some rubble.

The Jain Zar model is amazing...good enough to make we want to buy it when I don't play Eldar. I would be happy to be stuck with that model for the next 25 years.

Kabalite Warrior Posts : 179 Join date : 2017-10-26

The rubble looks quite similar to the ones the harlequins are standing on,while Jain Zar is standing on different ruins.
If it is not just lazyness, why do that? Normally you use similar bases for different units of the same army to give it more the feeling of a combined army.

I hope it is just lazyness, as i fear some, not all, of the possible reasons for putting units of different eldar factions on the same terrain.

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