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urden93
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whoa wiped a full 10 man squad of guardsman Very Happy? thats an achivement srsly? 6 hawk can do that Razz and i bet from half price, which is still too expensive, after all a guardsmen unit is like 50 or 60 if veteran
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I have done a quick count of the points and its over 2600 pts under current dex without vehicle and unit upgrades and champs. Can someone with knowledge of AM units do the same for them please?

As for squadrons - I guess that 3 bombers are HS and the RWF is FA. I dont think bombers this large will be in squadrons.

And note there are 4 talos/cronos engines... there might be a squadron...
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what? where you got the army compositions?
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aurynn wrote:
I have done a quick count of the points and its over 2600 pts under current dex without vehicle and unit upgrades and champs. Can someone with knowledge of AM units do the same for them please?

As for squadrons - I guess that 3 bombers are HS and the RWF is FA. I dont think bombers this large will be in squadrons.

And note there are 4 talos/cronos engines... there might be a squadron...

Assuming that they're not playing unbound, they might just be taking multiple detachments. It looks like it could be one kabal detachment and one coven detachment, with the possibility that the covens have a slightly different force org chart (Wracks as troops, etc.)
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@urden93
the leaked pictures of the armies.

@krayd
one coven detachment with 4 talos/cronos engines? Either unbound, or squadron or 2 FOCs just for that. Might also be the Coven supplement special FOC - the one that is supposed to be in Archon limited edition dex.
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I was thinking of a possibility of something along the lines of Talos/Cronos counting as both elites and heavy support for a coven list. Either that, or squadrons.
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krayd wrote:
I was thinking of a possibility of something along the lines of Talos/Cronos counting as both elites and heavy support for a coven list. Either that, or squadrons.

or more likely fast attack
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if army builder is right AM stuff without tank/transport and infantry squad upgrades(unlikely) are at 2605
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aurynn wrote:
I have done a quick count of the points and its over 2600 pts under current dex without vehicle and unit upgrades and champs. Can someone with knowledge of AM units do the same for them please?

Did it for both and I also got around 2600+ on both sides without special gear/weapons. So I assume roughly 3k Points on both sides.
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Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS???
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Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS???

It's because GW is under the delusion that they're selling luxury products.

The best answer is to not buy anything at the moment.

Wait for GW to go bust and be bought out by Hasbro, or some other company that isn't run by idiots.
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or apply for that CEO position they just announced. :-P
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aurynn wrote:
Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS???

It's because GW is under the delusion that they're selling luxury products.

The best answer is to not buy anything at the moment.

Wait for GW to go bust and be bought out by Hasbro, or some other company that isn't run by idiots.

Was just telling my girlfriend last night that I was hoping for the same thing. I see a lot of cheaper models I like these days, and games with more balanced rulesets. The only thing that keeps me around is the fluff, and it's so Space Marine-centric even my interest in that is waning. I don't think I've bought anything since April.
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If you look closely at the bald head on the crossed-arms archon model, it appears to be a new bit modeled after the unhelmed archon on the current dex cover

Edit: Also, from the very first leaks of the wracks pilots onwards, I've been shocked at the generally low-quality edge painting (do you call that lining? edge highlighting?) displayed across the new models. I'm not saying I could do better, but what a dive from the current showcase minis
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agree with you EOHALL, painting is a drag, especially when the models are so bad ass and considered tops for GW, I get the new model for the voidraven but what is the NEW unit that should be coming?
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dont have high hopes it will surely goes up from 145 to like 180-230... , if not im a happy megalomaniac Smile
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The Shredder wrote:
aurynn wrote:
Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS???

It's because GW is under the delusion that they're selling luxury products.

The best answer is to not buy anything at the moment.

Wait for GW to go bust and be bought out by Hasbro, or some other company that isn't run by idiots.

They want money for their work and the products tehy are making? THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE.
What idiots GW are:/
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They want money for their work and the products tehy are making? THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE.
What idiots GW are:/

That's quite a strawman you've got there.
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@ Darklight
You really think that the price is OK? You can get the same amount of wyches and raiders for half the price. I have no problem with the Bomber price. It is steep, but it seems to be worth the money. But friggin troops? No-way-o...
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how you know that wracks went troop Very Happy? for now they are elites
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Want to bet? :-) I am 100% sure that they will be troops at least in the Covens Supplement. And for the record, the Wracks are troops now... just need to take Haemi.

IMHO the points price should be reflected in cash price too. :-) No need to mention how unreal this wish is. :-)
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urden93 wrote:
how you know that wracks went troop Very Happy? for now they are elites

Whilst technically true I have never, ever taken Wracks from the Elite section.
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Count Adhemar wrote:

Whilst technically true I have never, ever taken Wracks from the Elite section.

I think this is a problem with FoC swaps in general.

All to often you end up with units that are either:
a) Only worthwhile as troops, and hence never taken in their actual slot (like the aforementioned wracks).
b) Very good in their own slot, and so overpowered as troops.
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hear hear!
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@ Darklight
You really think that the price is OK? You can get the same amount of wyches and raiders for half the price. I have no problem with the Bomber price. It is steep, but it seems to be worth the money. But friggin troops? No-way-o...

Nope I got no problems with their prices. I accept that if a company wants to use local labor they need to pay the price for it. And the local community takes advantage of it as it makes jobs.
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