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urden93 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 174 Join date : 2014-08-28 Location : Budapest, Hungary
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 19:08 | |
| whoa wiped a full 10 man squad of guardsman ? thats an achivement srsly? 6 hawk can do that and i bet from half price, which is still too expensive, after all a guardsmen unit is like 50 or 60 if veteran | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 19:09 | |
| I have done a quick count of the points and its over 2600 pts under current dex without vehicle and unit upgrades and champs. Can someone with knowledge of AM units do the same for them please?
As for squadrons - I guess that 3 bombers are HS and the RWF is FA. I dont think bombers this large will be in squadrons.
And note there are 4 talos/cronos engines... there might be a squadron... | |
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urden93 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 174 Join date : 2014-08-28 Location : Budapest, Hungary
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 19:26 | |
| what? where you got the army compositions? | |
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krayd Hekatrix
Posts : 1343 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Richmond, VA
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 19:44 | |
| - aurynn wrote:
- I have done a quick count of the points and its over 2600 pts under current dex without vehicle and unit upgrades and champs. Can someone with knowledge of AM units do the same for them please?
As for squadrons - I guess that 3 bombers are HS and the RWF is FA. I dont think bombers this large will be in squadrons.
And note there are 4 talos/cronos engines... there might be a squadron... Assuming that they're not playing unbound, they might just be taking multiple detachments. It looks like it could be one kabal detachment and one coven detachment, with the possibility that the covens have a slightly different force org chart (Wracks as troops, etc.) | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 20:17 | |
| @urden93 the leaked pictures of the armies.
@krayd one coven detachment with 4 talos/cronos engines? Either unbound, or squadron or 2 FOCs just for that. Might also be the Coven supplement special FOC - the one that is supposed to be in Archon limited edition dex. | |
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krayd Hekatrix
Posts : 1343 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Richmond, VA
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 20:48 | |
| I was thinking of a possibility of something along the lines of Talos/Cronos counting as both elites and heavy support for a coven list. Either that, or squadrons. | |
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Elzadar Sybarite
Posts : 273 Join date : 2012-09-11
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 21:19 | |
| - krayd wrote:
- I was thinking of a possibility of something along the lines of Talos/Cronos counting as both elites and heavy support for a coven list. Either that, or squadrons.
or more likely fast attack | |
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urden93 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 174 Join date : 2014-08-28 Location : Budapest, Hungary
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 21:20 | |
| if army builder is right AM stuff without tank/transport and infantry squad upgrades(unlikely) are at 2605 | |
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Klaivex Charondyr Wych
Posts : 918 Join date : 2014-09-08
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 21:23 | |
| - aurynn wrote:
- I have done a quick count of the points and its over 2600 pts under current dex without vehicle and unit upgrades and champs. Can someone with knowledge of AM units do the same for them please?
Did it for both and I also got around 2600+ on both sides without special gear/weapons. So I assume roughly 3k Points on both sides. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 21:54 | |
| Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS??? | |
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The Shredder Trueborn
Posts : 2970 Join date : 2013-04-11
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 22:17 | |
| - aurynn wrote:
- Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS???
It's because GW is under the delusion that they're selling luxury products. The best answer is to not buy anything at the moment. Wait for GW to go bust and be bought out by Hasbro, or some other company that isn't run by idiots. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 22:26 | |
| or apply for that CEO position they just announced. :-P | |
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Expletive Deleted Wych
Posts : 581 Join date : 2013-07-31
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Tue Sep 23 2014, 23:30 | |
| - The Shredder wrote:
- aurynn wrote:
- Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS???
It's because GW is under the delusion that they're selling luxury products.
The best answer is to not buy anything at the moment.
Wait for GW to go bust and be bought out by Hasbro, or some other company that isn't run by idiots. Was just telling my girlfriend last night that I was hoping for the same thing. I see a lot of cheaper models I like these days, and games with more balanced rulesets. The only thing that keeps me around is the fluff, and it's so Space Marine-centric even my interest in that is waning. I don't think I've bought anything since April. | |
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eohall Hellion
Posts : 74 Join date : 2012-04-16 Location : Newton, MA
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 01:58 | |
| If you look closely at the bald head on the crossed-arms archon model, it appears to be a new bit modeled after the unhelmed archon on the current dex cover
Edit: Also, from the very first leaks of the wracks pilots onwards, I've been shocked at the generally low-quality edge painting (do you call that lining? edge highlighting?) displayed across the new models. I'm not saying I could do better, but what a dive from the current showcase minis | |
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The Red Slave
Posts : 19 Join date : 2012-11-28 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 04:58 | |
| agree with you EOHALL, painting is a drag, especially when the models are so bad ass and considered tops for GW, I get the new model for the voidraven but what is the NEW unit that should be coming? | |
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urden93 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 174 Join date : 2014-08-28 Location : Budapest, Hungary
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 07:54 | |
| dont have high hopes it will surely goes up from 145 to like 180-230... , if not im a happy megalomaniac | |
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Darklight Sybarite
Posts : 384 Join date : 2011-05-27 Location : Stavanger
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 10:53 | |
| - The Shredder wrote:
- aurynn wrote:
- Heh... guys... just did a quick count... 3 full troops of wracks with raiders and converted raider crews... 400 bucks? IS GW FRIGGIN' CRAZY???!!! I know this hobby is expensive but THIS???
It's because GW is under the delusion that they're selling luxury products.
The best answer is to not buy anything at the moment.
Wait for GW to go bust and be bought out by Hasbro, or some other company that isn't run by idiots. They want money for their work and the products tehy are making? THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE. What idiots GW are:/ | |
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The Shredder Trueborn
Posts : 2970 Join date : 2013-04-11
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:12 | |
| - Darklight wrote:
- They want money for their work and the products tehy are making? THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE.
What idiots GW are:/ That's quite a strawman you've got there. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:18 | |
| @ Darklight You really think that the price is OK? You can get the same amount of wyches and raiders for half the price. I have no problem with the Bomber price. It is steep, but it seems to be worth the money. But friggin troops? No-way-o... | |
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urden93 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 174 Join date : 2014-08-28 Location : Budapest, Hungary
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:22 | |
| how you know that wracks went troop ? for now they are elites | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:30 | |
| Want to bet? :-) I am 100% sure that they will be troops at least in the Covens Supplement. And for the record, the Wracks are troops now... just need to take Haemi.
IMHO the points price should be reflected in cash price too. :-) No need to mention how unreal this wish is. :-) | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:33 | |
| - urden93 wrote:
- how you know that wracks went troop ? for now they are elites
Whilst technically true I have never, ever taken Wracks from the Elite section. | |
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The Shredder Trueborn
Posts : 2970 Join date : 2013-04-11
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:37 | |
| - Count Adhemar wrote:
Whilst technically true I have never, ever taken Wracks from the Elite section. I think this is a problem with FoC swaps in general. All to often you end up with units that are either: a) Only worthwhile as troops, and hence never taken in their actual slot (like the aforementioned wracks). b) Very good in their own slot, and so overpowered as troops. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:37 | |
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Darklight Sybarite
Posts : 384 Join date : 2011-05-27 Location : Stavanger
| Subject: Re: Our Codex is confirmed! - *** summary as of Sept. 29 in OP *** Wed Sep 24 2014, 11:44 | |
| - aurynn wrote:
- @ Darklight
You really think that the price is OK? You can get the same amount of wyches and raiders for half the price. I have no problem with the Bomber price. It is steep, but it seems to be worth the money. But friggin troops? No-way-o... Nope I got no problems with their prices. I accept that if a company wants to use local labor they need to pay the price for it. And the local community takes advantage of it as it makes jobs. | |
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