Sneak Peek at New Drukhari Codex

Burnage wrote:

AzraeI wrote:

Silverglade wrote:

 

Keep in mind this supplement was supposed to originally come out with the death guard codex in terms of timing.   (i think).   So this was supposed to be a teaser for a month or so before out codex came out as opposed to a replacement for the codex.

So this would have dropped before ourcodex?

Entirely possible - it still seems to be dropping before the Ad Mech and Knight Codexes, after all.

@Kalmah - these rules are for matched play. They probably won't be necessary to run a Drukhari army but will give you additional options if you want to include Cult of Strife in your list.

I know there isn't much to go on, but do you read this as .."if you want Cult of Strife the rules will be in The Book of Rust", or "additional rules for Cult of Strife will be in The Book of Rust"?

harlokin wrote:

Burnage wrote:

AzraeI wrote:

Silverglade wrote:

 

Keep in mind this supplement was supposed to originally come out with the death guard codex in terms of timing.   (i think).   So this was supposed to be a teaser for a month or so before out codex came out as opposed to a replacement for the codex.

So this would have dropped before ourcodex?

Entirely possible - it still seems to be dropping before the Ad Mech and Knight Codexes, after all.

@Kalmah - these rules are for matched play. They probably won't be necessary to run a Drukhari army but will give you additional options if you want to include Cult of Strife in your list.

I know there isn't much to go on, but do you read this as .."if you want Cult of Strife the rules will be in The Book of Rust", or "additional rules for Cult of Strife will be in The Book of Rust"?

Additional rules. Space Marines have the same structure: the main Codex contains brief rules for all the chapters, the supplements expand on those.

I feel obliged to correct some of your facts here, Skulnbonz.

Splinter cannons get half the shots AT HALF RANGE. At 18"+ it's a strict buff of 2D and -1AP with the same number of shots. It definitely sucks that infantry will be -1 to hit due to the Heavy profile, if you ever took cannons on infantry (I know I didn't).

Incubi did indeed keep the same number of attacks. But they got +1 damage, and +1 strength too if I recall correctly.

Opinion time, but I 99% expect wych blades to KEEP their +1 attack.

It remains to be seen if Hellions get any other buffs to justify the price hike. Maybe -1AP? If not, then yes, that's a lame change.

Faster vehicles? Nah I agree, they'll stay the same.
Increased transport capacity? You're probably right that there's no change.
Vect and new units? Haha yeah no way.

I definitely don't agree that "every last one [of the changes] is mediocre at best". Splinter Cannons are a winner for me, being basically twice as killy against primaris. Incubi are big winners too. I expect that wyches will keep their blade attack so that's also a win. An extra attack for Kabs is mediocre though, as is the one for Cronos.

harlokin wrote:

Burnage wrote:

AzraeI wrote:

Silverglade wrote:

 

Keep in mind this supplement was supposed to originally come out with the death guard codex in terms of timing.   (i think).   So this was supposed to be a teaser for a month or so before out codex came out as opposed to a replacement for the codex.

So this would have dropped before ourcodex?

Entirely possible - it still seems to be dropping before the Ad Mech and Knight Codexes, after all.

@Kalmah - these rules are for matched play. They probably won't be necessary to run a Drukhari army but will give you additional options if you want to include Cult of Strife in your list.

I know there isn't much to go on, but do you read this as .."if you want Cult of Strife the rules will be in The Book of Rust", or "additional rules for Cult of Strife will be in The Book of Rust"?

As they called it Codex Supplement, I personally think you need the book of Rus to play Cult of Strife. You cannot play Ultramarines without their Codex Supplement either. And they write it expands and updates the options. Updates normally means the not updated parts in the codex are not usable anymore.

And have you seen the imperial forces get both an army of renown and a codex supplement, while Deathguard and Drukhari only get one? The Deathguard get an army of renown and something that is called Fester Discipline, while Drukhari get only the supplement.

And as I said before really bad timing for a reveal about the campaign book. Now we know what gets updated, but we can only guess if this means Cult of Strife is not in the codex.

I would expect cult of strife to be in the main codex the same as they are in the current codex. Expanding upon those rules within the new campaign book doesn’t mean they are excluded from the main codex. That’s an assumption you’re making.

Dark Elf Dave wrote:

I would expect cult of strife to be in the main codex the same as they are in the current codex. Expanding  upon those rules within the new campaign book doesn’t mean they are excluded from the main codex. That’s an assumption you’re making.

Wouldn't YOU expecting the cult of strife to be in the main codex be an assumption you are making?

Dark Elf Dave wrote:

I would expect cult of strife to be in the main codex the same as they are in the current codex. Expanding  upon those rules within the new campaign book doesn’t mean they are excluded from the main codex. That’s an assumption you’re making.

"expand and update" is a direct quote from the article. If they update rules from the codex, they outdated rules from the codex are not usable anymore, so it is even irrelevant if they are in the codex or not. Basically what happened with Daughters of Khaine the other way around.

Cult of Strife will 100% be in the codex.

Cult of Strife are the biggest Wych Cult, even GW can't just leave them out of the codex.

harlokin wrote:

Cult of Strife are the biggest Wych Cult, even GW can't just leave them out of the codex.

Calgar and the Smurfs aren't in the Marine codex either, there are only the chapter tactic, a WL trait, a relic and Strat in the Main Marine codex

On another note, how stupid do you think can things get?
Tier 1: Announcing the Supplement before the Codex release
Tier 2: Releasing the Supplement before the Codex release
and Tier 3: Releasing the Supplement for the old codex just before the release of the new one

imho every option is possible

Skulnbonz wrote:

Dark Elf Dave wrote:

I would expect cult of strife to be in the main codex the same as they are in the current codex. Expanding  upon those rules within the new campaign book doesn’t mean they are excluded from the main codex. That’s an assumption you’re making.

Wouldn't YOU expecting the cult of strife to be in the main codex be an assumption you are making?

Please educate yourself on the differences between “expectation” and “assumption”.

AzraeI wrote:

On another note, how stupid do you think can things get?
Tier 1: Announcing the Supplement before the Codex release
Tier 2: Releasing the Supplement before the Codex release
and Tier 3: Releasing the Supplement for the old codex just before the release of the new one

imho every option is possible

Of course, it's the third option. I guess they put new Lelith, new wych cult rules and stratagems and relics there as an advance to the new codex. But the new normal messed with the timing (hence their bad management of spoilers and all).

AzraeI wrote:

harlokin wrote:

Cult of Strife are the biggest Wych Cult, even GW can't just leave them out of the codex.

Calgar and the Smurfs aren't in the Marine codex either, there are only the chapter tactic, a WL trait, a relic and Strat in the Main Marine codex

What exactly are you expecting Cult of Strife to receive in the Drukhari Codex

Hint: It's going to be an Obsession, a warlord trait, a relic and a stratagem

Burnage wrote:

AzraeI wrote:

harlokin wrote:

Cult of Strife are the biggest Wych Cult, even GW can't just leave them out of the codex.

Calgar and the Smurfs aren't in the Marine codex either, there are only the chapter tactic, a WL trait, a relic and Strat in the Main Marine codex

What exactly are you expecting Cult of Strife to receive in the Drukhari Codex

Hint: It's going to be an Obsession, a warlord trait, a relic and a stratagem

I don't know. Something amazing I guess.

And Lelith

[quote="Dark Elf Dave"]

Skulnbonz wrote:

Please educate yourself on the differences between “expectation” and “assumption”.

Expectation is the belief that the cult of strife will be in the codex, based on prior events.
Assumption is the belief that the cult of strife will be in the codex, not necessarily based on prior events.

Please educate yourself on hypocrisy.

Koldan wrote:

Dark Elf Dave wrote:

That’s an assumption you’re making.

"expand and update" is a direct quote from the article.

But they are talking about all the supplements in that sentence. Meaning that some of them may contain updated rules, while others contain expanded rules.

Skulnbonz wrote:

Expectation is the belief that the cult of strife will be in the codex, based on prior events.
Assumption is the belief that the cult of strife will be in the codex, not necessarily based on prior events.

Sorry, but that isn’t really the case

Expecting something is making a prediction about the future/something to come.
Assuming something is treating something as a fact (usually in order to reach a conclusion based ob that fact, or to explore what outcomes would come from it)

Skulnbonz wrote:

Dark Elf Dave wrote:

Skulnbonz wrote:

Please educate yourself on the differences between “expectation” and “assumption”.

Expectation is the belief that the cult of strife will be in the codex, based on prior events.
Assumption is the belief that the cult of strife will be in the codex, not necessarily based on prior events.

Please educate yourself on hypocrisy.

You clearly don’t take well to educating yourself.

lol i think i'll just wait for more info next week......cause i'm still confused lol

Skulnbonz wrote:

DevilDoll wrote:

i feel strange... is that... GOD DAMN it is that optimism again?
Soulless Samurai, Skulnbonz, Azrael somebody dudez help me out here ^_^

I got your back!
I will not bring you back to the dark side with predictions of the future...
I will simply point out facts from the changes we already know!

We wanted splinter cannons ap-1 and damage 2. They said Fine, and gave it to us with half the shots, and -1 to hit if on an infantry model that moved, AND made it non rerollable with flayed skull.

We wanted more attacks, so they gave us +1 attack on wyches and took their extra attack away from their blades (99%). They did NOT give the extra attack to our Incubi, but to make up for it they gave it to our venoms and warriors and the cronos! Yay!  Our hellions they gave +1 attack to, but then jacked up the price on the unit no one ever took except for the rule of cool.

We wanted faster vehicles.  HA!
we want more vehicle capacity- I would bet money that that answer is HA! too
Vect? Double Ha!
ANY new units, even bringing back the duke, baron, etc? HA!

and the one model.. the one resculpt of a model we already have, turns out to be the ugly stepsister to the model it was supposed to replace.


We do, however, get to keep all the stratagems we got in pheonix rising as well as the ones we have in the marine codex, the new necron book and the ones printed in last weeks sunday paper.

How can anyone look at this pile of mediocrity and say they are excited for the release?
Do not let a few shiny pictures fool you.
Wait for rules.

And I think most people agree, ALL of the rules, every last one we have seen released so far... are mediocre at best.

thx bro i needed that ^_^

Anyone else feel like they are waiting for a game to come out and they announce a DLC before releasing the actual game lol?

Not the first time 7th released with the covens preorder crap show

Grimcrimm wrote:

Not the first time 7th released with the covens preorder crap show

But that had at least a little bit more substance. 4 pages maximum here and I am expecting at least one page for Lelith.

And even though I doubt they would do it here, in Phoenix Rising the introduction to the Drukhari rules was 1 page, 2 pages Drazhar, 1 page with a description of Incubi. That alone would fill the 4 pages. Just as a comparison of how GW stretches rules across pages in modern books.

DevilDoll wrote:

Kalmah wrote:

for my part, knowing the treatment GW gave to the SM captain (my friend told me it's like a running gag that there's a plethora of SM captain to choose from) and then GW was messing with people like: great news everyone! a new model is coming! only to present a new captain.....again and again, and always GW was ''playing'' with people.
Now, i'm pretty sure it's intentional that they talked about the extra attack for models who don't care at all and the non-existent Strats from PA.....it's like DevilDoll says....like a troll.....i'm pretty sure they are only messing with us....at least we'll see next week!
Cause again this article is nothing but wind.....no rules, not even a hint....it's more like a kick in the ants hive.
Again....it's only a feeling i have.....and i really don't know the reason why they would do that (maybe they already know that people playing this kind of game are always complaining (i'm not refering specifically to warhammer, but every ''geek'' games like Magic) and just want to throw a little bit of oil in the fire)

One thing seems to be clear now is that there will be a way to mix inside the same detachment units from different sub-faction.....maybe you will only need to have at least a proper HQ to include units

dude i love you dont ever stop posting, seriously you can make the worst article ever (see what i did there? best drukhari codex EVER) seem like its interesting and hopeful ^_^

Be careful. I think he's a spy from GW. He's way too friendly to be a dark eldar, even for a Canadian.